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Wednesday, August 06, 2008

The Pretty Decent Hentai Game

A long time ago I made an ironically titled post called The Ultimate Hentai Game in which I explained why it will absolutely never be made: There's no money in it, nobody knows what they want, nobody wants to go near it, and crap games already have a firm grip on the market. It's one of the better things I've written here and that's depressing, really.

But the nice thing about posts from long ago is that a long time has passed.

Today, as a more experienced and knowledgeable man, I'm going to provide a rebuttal to my own arguments. In doing this I hope to bring a new light of hope to all hentai fans around the globe! Right after I finish bursting out laughing from writing lines like that.

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1) There's New Profit Potential (countering: "No Profit Potential")
Once upon a time all games were bought and sold in retail brick-and-mortar shops. Then along came the internet, and people realized they could make money through advertisements shown online instead! Then they realized they were idiots and actually couldn't and lost bazillions of dollars. Fast forward a decade or so and advertising is back in the saddle and rapidly growing in terms of value. Right now adult advertising in games is difficult to pull off, if not impossible, but who knows how long that will last? Demon Girl is #72 for popularity on Newgrounds, someone is going to wake up and take advantage of this situation eventually.

Another new revenue stream that's picking up momentum is micro-transactions. Would you pay $1 for a second character, or a new enemy? $5 to boost the experience all-round? Again, the systems aren't here yet, but one day someone is going to make a killing once they set it up.

Sponsorships are now a big thing in the flash gaming market. Flash games, made in a few months, are going for 10-20k plus bonuses. While that amount is still very unusual, if the value of games continues to increase at this rate it's possible (read: likely) that adult portal sponsorships will show up and begin to help justify spending time on developing hentai games. More time developing means more advancements in the genre which helps to turn the tide of crap around.

The population of the earth is growing, the prevalence of religion is dropping, more and more people are becoming tech savvy. Hentai has an ever-growing market to target, even if we are mostly cheapskates.

2) Soft Focus (countering: "No Consensus")
Some people want to push forward with gameplay and others want to ratchet up the H content, how do you reconcile the two in a single game? The answer is actually pretty simple: provide both types of stimulus simultaneously.

The concept is what I'm calling soft focus and it's the opposite of the way hentai games are currently made. The standard model is: a) Make the player go through sections of gameplay, then b) provide a non-interactive hentai sequence as a reward. My approach is to tie both sequences together and then give the player the option (not an explicit dialog tree style option, but an implicit "look where you want to" option) of directing their focus to what they want. Try not to penalize either approach and maximize the amount a player can get out of it.

An additional way of "pleasing everyone" is to allow players to tailor experience to their fetishes. Don't like the extreme stuff? Turn it off. Want more of a specific fetish, crank up that slider bar. Or maybe this is integrated into the micro-transaction model so people buy the types of content they want.

3) Fuck Stigma (countering: "Bad Stigma")
For a big company to engage in adult game development is still, and probably always will be, completely infeasible and dangerous. But for all the reasons listed above small companies are becoming more and more viable. Small companies carry less baggage and they can maneuver into more niche areas. Stigma is going to hurt a light-weight unknown company far less than a major corporate player.

Hentai audiences are crazy devoted. You guys are proof of that! I did jack all for a year and was between this blog and my site was getting 2k hits a day and had people posting in forums about me. As mentioned before, Demon Girl is #72 for popularity on the oldest flash portal on the net, and even got into the top 100 for score! That's hard for any game to do. Maybe 99.9% of viewers don't care, but that remaining fraction of a percent make up for them.

On the flip side, you don't need to have a close relationship with that 99.9% to harness the millions of views they bring in. Someone who views a game just so they can write a nasty review would still be seeing an add; would still be boosting the popularity. Maybe people consider you to be a dirty, shameless sinner but maybe that's not so important.

4) Fuck Japan (countering: "Bad Precedent")
Don't get me wrong, I love the country. So much amazing stuff comes out of there. I wouldn't be here today without 'em! Still, when it comes to gaming the rest of the world is moving on. Russia is starting to build up a significant set of developers, Korea is dominating the online space, anime is big in the west now. How long will it be before India starts pumping out titles? Japan may be holding back the hentai game genre but that means the rest of the world has a golden opportunity to take control of it.

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So at this point you're thinking "oh my god he's back into making Mystic Girl and it's going to be the most amazing thing mankind has ever witnessed" in which case I'll need to SLAP YOU. Mystic Girl is still on hiatus, although I can say for sure that I want to take another shot at it. I've got ideas about what to do with it; ways to make it better than I originally intended. Whether I get around to pursuing that, who knows? But you'll all be the first people to hear if I do. And rest assured I won't give you a date for it lest I be hit by a truck.

21 comments:

Anonymous said...

Haha! First comment! Keep up the updates LM!

Anonymous said...

LineMarvel?

More like... PINE MARVEL!

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Anonymous said...

*accidentally clicks on bookmark*
*sees LM is alive again*
*GOES NUTS*

Nice post :)

Anonymous said...

PLEASE CONTINUE MYSTIC GIRL... PLEASEEEEEE....you made us wait soooooooo long...you owe it to all your fans... i love demon girl but i've played it way to much

Anonymous said...

to the ^ Dickwad above, please go...... We don't need any more bitchin whining 14 year olds posting in the big people conversation.

Anonymous said...

Holy Crap! He's working on Mystic Girl again *slap*. Alright, in all seriousness, you have many good points.... looks like its up to you to show the world how its done... Godspeed Linemarvel, Godspeed...

Anonymous said...

i have too agree with one poster...i want MG to come out sooner rather then later...been here since the start and im still here...and prolly will be for a while yet...i almost lost faith in lm updating his site when he was gone but kept checking in once every so often and im glad too see it payed off...but damnit i want mg lol!!! and LM your constant maybe i might make it maybe i wont is driving me nuckin futz!!! ahem anyways nice too see things on the h market and for the future of these types of games is looking better but as far as i know thier are already a few good ones out thier but hardly anything i would call a "market" but it is getting better...and guys ppl have the right to speak thier minds so he\she may be 14 years old but anyone willing to wait a year + for something thats not a sure bet means they have just as much patience as you or i...be kind to ppl and not all STFU GTFO!!! treat peeps how u wish to be treated and in turn you will be treated as such...i quite frankly think every one here does deserve something new in the MG line maybe a pic or promo or even just the words confirming that the progress is FINALLY going forward...no that doesnt mean LM OWES it too us but a nice little suprise in his blog or better yet the front of his site that rarelly gets updated lol would be nice for thsoe of us who stuck with it through thick n thin...oh and to anon who posts after reading this telling me to stfu JOKES ON YOU DILLHOLE i wont be back to read this cause quite frankly i dont care wat u have too say only wat LM says so grats if u came to flame me on the fact that i wont ever read it and in turn just made you waste your life reading it enjoy :) lol

Anonymous said...

Line Marvel, If you do indeed continue w/ mystic girl, are you still looking for voice acting?
let me know if you are.
shardchan@gmail.com

Anonymous said...

again with the Mystic Girl and the Dying already You're starting to Act Crazy! again OY! the man has Given us all SO MUCH! and He's Posting again as well ( and you can deny that they're entertaining!) so quit you're whining already!

If you want Mystic Girl So bad then pol you're lack of talent's together and make IT already!

Anonymous said...

Seriously, you have a gift for making amasing hentai games. I'm looking foward to this 3rd game. Open a donation box for Mystic Girl and I'll sell my world of warcraft account and give you the money.

Anonymous said...

Seriously. finish the game.

Anonymous said...

uummm WWW.lmarvel.proboards57.com is down for ME maybe not for others, but when i punch in the website i get directed to the home page of Proboards.....so, did i miss something?

Anonymous said...

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Need money to finish MG?
Tell us. Don't leaave us ur boring words.

DEEDS not WORLDS!!!

Anonymous said...

As I said in a previous post I'm new to blogging, left a post on one from like 3 months ago thinking it was the current one :P. DG is freaking awesome, MG is gonna blow every other hentai game outta the fucking water. Take it easy, dont work too hard.

Anonymous said...

Thinking about taking up MG again, huh? That's an unexpected turn...seriously. After all that time, and especially when you finally admitted you were putting the project on (perhaps permanent) hiatus, that the game was just a fanciful dream.

You got a good head on your shoulders, LM. You've proven that you know your snuff when it comes to hentai games; succeeding even though your games were heavy on the tentacle fetish (which is the only reason I tried them out to begin with, honestly). JG and DG are the only hentai games that I ever play; everything else is trash, that I've been able to find. I do hope you dust off the MG project and pick it back up.

Even if you don't, I've immensely enjoyed your blog posts (however sparingly they arrive). Keep it up, LM; cheers.

Anonymous said...

O.o
i must agree with most things that have been said.
MG would be a worthy addition to the world of h games...and i would gladly donate to the cause!

on another note, i noted as well that the proboards has gone down due to the fires over the last summer...
i personally havnt been able to contact anyone from there...
if anyone hears anything, plz give the rest of us forum addicts a heads up!
^^

Anonymous said...

So you're continuing? Nice! And dont worry about making us wait. I rather that it takes a few more years and be so awesome that itll never be forgoten than it being rushed and shitty. So take your time and dont post it before you,re sure its awesome =P

Anonymous said...

You know, Games like Demon girl, and the one you making. You could sell about 5-10 bucks a game. Depending how long the game is, a re play value, and other things. If you wana make a small sum that will help.

Anonymous said...

Yes, the market is kind of dim, but there is another aproach to raise funds for " the developing ".

You have a lot of fans right ? you can do a " cloud gain ". its a term not fully undestood nowdays.

It means : post a bank account number your fans can place mony on it. They are not purchasing anyting, they dont need to use a credit card, and you will be getting money.

The downside of this, is the ISR. I dont know how it would be in your country, but you need to check your local rules for that.

Donating is quite troublesome, because there are laws to regule it.

Just post a method of giving you money, cancel the account when the targeted sum is reached ( if you get too many mony, you might be in trouble with the ISR ) and there you go, instant financial support to develop from the fans who REALLY WANT IT DONE.

And they wont be let down once the proyect is finished. =D

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